Virgin River, with 84 episodes expected after Season 8, overtakes Elite in volume and outpaces Grace and Frankie in total hours, given its hour-long format. That time spent onscreen translates into real engagement and it’s one reason Netflix didn’t wait long to give Season 8 the green light.

Out of nowhere, Netflix has confirmed Virgin River season 8 is happening, and while we’ve not seen season 7 yet, the show’s renewal suggests one key cliffhanger might now be fake.

Despite getting the green light from Netflix for a Season 8, Virgin River faces backlash for not overcoming its major shortcomings.